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ITF Taekwon-Do The Original Taekwon-Dancers

        Choi created the ultimate dance system, even better than Jhoon Rhee’s Martial Ballet system. You may see all the wacky, Kpop, Korean kids in South Korea dancing up a storm with double knife hands and high sidekicks via the Korean Tigers, but the original TKD-dance system needs to be accredited to General Choi. Here are some amazing Taekwon-Dance athletes at a dance competition tearing up the dance floor in the couples division. The amazing thing about their dance style is it is “acapella” so to speak, as in they don’t even use music. The Rythm is in their sexy bodies! WOOO! Check out the gold medal winning performance of these New Zealanders World Championship achievement! The best in the world!

Look at their sexy communist marching at the end. Also notice the amazing portrait of Choi Hong Hi on the wall? ITF is not a cult guys…it is only the best dance club in the world! True Taekwon-Dance is spelled with a hyphen, not that fake, South Korean, WTF dance style of Taekwondance. International Taekwon-Dance Federation, Choi meant to spell it that way.

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Interview With Master Dong-Hee Lee

 

        When you see a Taekwondo master from Korea demonstrating Taekwondo techniques from poomsae in plausible self defense maneuvers it really motivates the Taekwondo fighter in me. It pumps me up and inspires me to keep developing combat techniques and believing in Taekwondo. Master Dong-Hee Lee is such a master and I found his videos on YouTube recently. I do not believe his channel has many views and he seems to be rarely known. I want to change this and introduce him to my readers so more and more people will see his execution of techniques and fighting concepts and believe that Taekwondo is a fighting art, not simply a sport or performance art. His channel deserves a lot of views so please make sure to check it out and subscribe to his channel.

 


Dong Hee Lee self defense concepts

        I was able to interview master Lee over e-mail. He is a very approachable person and responds to messages and was excited to do this interview. Translation was difficult since I do not speak Korean and he does not speak English fluently yet, but we managed to make it work. I hope you all enjoy it and learn more about this interesting man.

 

Interview:

 

WHITE DRAGON: What’s your name? Where and when were you born? Please introduce yourself.

 

MASTER LEE: Nice to meet you, my name is Dong-hee Lee. I was born in South Korea in 1988. 

 

WHITE DRAGON: How did you get involved in martial arts and how old were you? What made you want to start training? Please list your training history and be as specific as possible. Who were your instructors in the past? Any notable characters?

 

MASTER LEE: I started Taekwondo when I was 5 years old. At that time almost every kid had to go to Taekwondo, even now. I was one of those kids, but unlike the ones who do it because they “have to,” in my case, I started training because I always had envied strength and martial arts. Even now I continue my Taekwondo training and have graduated from Kyunghee University as a Taekwondo major. In other words, I have been training for 23 years in total.
For Taekwondo, I had been taught by a world championship gold medalist teacher (sabum), under his guidance as a sparring athlete for 8 years. Also, I was a poomsae athlete and demonstration performer on the Korean Tigers demo team. 
In between, I’ve also learned Judo and Karate for a bit. After I’ve grown to be an adult I have been trained as an MMA athlete under the guidance of the best Korean Muay Thai athlete, and worldwide Muay Thai fighter Chi-Bin Im. 
Also, I’ve practiced Korea’s traditional martial art (mudo) which is called Hyeondongmu. It is a martial art that incorporates the use of ki.
Not long ago, I had also achieved the instructor certificate for Systema, which is a Russian bodyguard martial art, and Krav Maga as well, which is an Israeli bodyguard martial art. 
The person who taught me Systema in Korea was D.K Yoo (Dae-Kyeong Yoo). he had not only covered Systema but also Boxing. All sorts of Chinese martial arts and weapon martial arts which he had also taught me. 
 
WHITE DRAGON: What are your ranks, certifications or titles in martial arts? Do you have tournament titles?
 
MASTER LEE: When I was a poomsae athlete I had won a lot of gold medals. In 2006 I was nominated by the Korea Taekwondo Association as rank no.1 of poomsae out of all elementary, middle school, high school students, and adult players. 
Before in 2004 I won 1st place in the Korea Open World Poomsae Championship. 
In Taekwondo I am ranked 5th dan under the Kukkiwon and as for Systema and Krav Maga, I have obtained instructor qualifications for both. I also have Kickboxing certification of Muay Thai/K-1 Instructor from WAKO Korea. 
During my time as a martial art athlete, my record for Muay Thai was 3 victory, 1 draw with 2 KO’s out of 4 matches. 

Taekwondo victory after Muay Thai fight.

 

WHITE DRAGON: How long have you owned your school in Korea? Is it your first dojang that you have operated? Where are you located exactly? What classes do you offer?

 

MASTER LEE: I’ve entered Kyung Hee University located in South Korea in 2007 as a Taekwondo major and have graduated this year. The very first Taekwondo major that has been created.
I had made a club on actual combat and had been instructing for a few years and also let my club mates take part in games.
I currently don’t own my own dojang but I’m planning to next year.
If I get to own my dojang I would like to teach mainly adults on actual Taekwondo that can compete against any other martial arts. 

Kickboxing practice

WHITE DRAGON: Have you ever had to use Taekwondo in a real life fight or self defense situation? Have you ever been given a challenge by someone who wanted to fight you? If so how did you deal with it?

 

MASTER LEE: When I was living in South America a few years ago I ran into two black robbers. I chased them away by kicking them in the private spot. But if they had weapons it would have been hard. Luckily for me they didn’t. 
I myself am not of the personality who likes random fighting, so whenever someone tries to provoke me I usually apologize first to avoid a fight. Most situations there is almost no chance for me to get into a fight. People in Korea say that maybe it’s because I have quite a huge physique and my fierce looks. 
When I was a martial art athlete I had a lot of fights myself and most of the time Taekwondo had been a great help. Recently, I had trained a few martial art athletes and had sent them to participate in matches.

WHITE DRAGON: Why were you living in South America?

MASTER LEE: I was in Ecuador doing volunteer work for 2 years. I was teaching Taekwondo to the people there. 
 
WHITE DRAGON: Is taekwondo a dangerous system used for killing?

 

MASTER LEE: All martial arts contain the system for killing and giving great injuries to opponents. It is just as well with Taekwondo. Most people (including taekwondoin) don’t really know it, but deadly skills do exist in Taekwondo. However the purpose for all martial arts are not specifically for killing people, but defending yourself.

 

WHITE DRAGON: What was the Taekwondo scene like in Korea when you were growing up? How is training different today in most dojangs compared to then?

 

MASTER LEE: I feel that children in the recent era are really blessed. They can learn whatever they want. It was different for me when I was a kid. At that time even the internet wasn’t as well developed as it is right now. Nowadays, kids have to learn everything that they can learn. The current dojang of Korea have become more focused on physical education and recreation for kids, but I believe the trend will change to martial arts dojang for adults.
Back in the day most of the dojangs had armed us with strong training and discipline for our body and heart. But nowadays most dojangs don’t train students as it was before.

WHITE DRAGON: What is your opinion on the modern state of Taekwondo? Many feel that Taekwondo has lost much of its combative nature these days. Is it true?

MASTER LEE: I think that Taekwondo has lost a lot of its combative nature. To be exact, a lot of its nature has been latent. On the other hand, Taekwondo sparring has been developed a lot and by itself it is very combative and a very effective combat style. However, Taekwondo contains more techniques that need the application of the whole body.
If such skills become revived I believe Taekwondo will be a stronger martial art.

Dong Hee Lee

 
WHITE DRAGON: What is your opinion of the ‘taekwondo-dance trend’? The Korean Tigers really promote it and have made it popular all over the world. I would like to know your thoughts on that?

 

MASTER LEE: Adding in dance or other elements to Taekwondo can be said to be as entertainment. It is another trend to the Korean culture itself. I think the Korean Tigers had done a great job in promoting and making Taekwondo famous around the world. It is a bit sad that the actual combat style of Taekwondo couldn’t be introduced, but it is the truth that they have contributed to making the name Taekwondo as well-known as it is now. But for people who don’t really know, they may carry doubt or misunderstandings towards the sport and style itself.
Such traditional taekwondoin must put forth an effort to display this. Tony Jaa is a Thailand action movie star who was cast in the movie “The Protector” and other Muay Thai movies. He has added acrobatic moves to the martial art for movie fight scenes. Even so, nobody will say that Muay Thai is weak in actual combat. This is because Muay Thai has already been recognized for its veracity in many MMA matches. 
As for Taekwondo, its veracity hasn’t been recognized much foreignly, so by the adding of acrobatics, dance moves, and entertainment elements, such as how the Korean Tiger’s display Taekwondo, it easily produces misunderstandings of the martial art. Therefore, I think of it as a cultural aspect of Korea and we have to keep the idea of “taekwondo-dance” in such a light for what it is, but at the same time we have to focus more on the traditional values and martial art (mudo) side of Taekwondo itself.

Practicing for a demo

WHITE DRAGON: What was it like touring with the Korean Tigers? What kinds of performances did you do? How is their martial arts philosophy as a whole compared to you individually? 

MASTER LEE: I was a Korean Tiger member for 4 years. I never did Taekwondo dancing. I focused mainly on kicking such as kyuk pa and poomsae techniques. Their philosophy is just about performance art and not actual martial arts. For me, my philosophy is about martial arts and not the same as theirs. During my time with the K-Tigers I was able to visit several countries such as China, India, Qatar just to name a few. It was a fun experience but I decided I really want true martial arts and to further Taekwondo as a martial art which is different from their focus on performance art. 

WHITE DRAGON: What is your opinion on the International Taekwon-Do Federation?

 

MASTER LEE: I think the International Taekwon-Do Federation itself is a magnificent fraction of Taekwondo. Especially, the fundamentals of ‘sign wave’ is special and remarkable. 

K-Tiger’s promotional photo

WHITE DRAGON: It is said that martial arts change people’s lives. In what was has martial arts training influenced your life? What can it do for other people?

 

MASTER LEE: By strengthening your body and mind it can bring help to one’s livelihood. It gives you confidence and can let you protect yourself and the people around you. Also, it deepens the understanding of other’s pain, since pain accompanies through the process of training in a martial art. Anyhow, I believe through training it secretly influences others and gives out good influence. 

 

WHITE DRAGON: Who are some Taekwondo masters that inspire you? Also, do you have heroes in other styles of martial arts as well?

 

MASTER LEE: I respect all of my teachers who have taught me since I was inspired by all of them. They have taught me different martial arts throughout my life.

 

WHITE DRAGON: What does it take to become an instructor? What qualifications would you suggest? Do you have any tips for people wanting to start their own gyms and become full time Taekwondo teachers?

 

MASTER LEE: At first the person must have good skills. There must always be something to teach. They must also have leadership skills in order to forward the things that one wants to teach. Not just that but during the process in transmitting skills the teacher must have a personality that other people can respect. However, I currently don’t operate any dojang so it is hard for me to give any tips to other masters.

 

WHITE DRAGON: How did you get the idea to join YouTube and begin uploading videos? Do you have any specific future plans with YouTube or video production?

 

MASTER LEE: The idea of making filming a video just popped up one day so I uploaded it onto YouTube. I’m planning to keep uploading videos of my skill system of techniques and poomsae interpretations and application, etc. 
In Korea I have already uploaded through blogs and stuff, especially the response on Facebook was really good. 

 

WHITE DRAGON: How important is poomsae practice to you and your philosophy? 

 

MASTER LEE: Poomsae was a gift that was given to me. Through poomsae competitions I could ultimately increase my ego in Korea and throughout the world. However as an aspect of my philosophy it wasn’t important. It only was a great help for training to master techniques and control the body and mind.

 

A focused Lee preparing before a poomsae event back in his high school days.

 

WHITE DRAGON: Do you enjoy Olympic Taekwondo sparring?
 
MASTER LEE: After my 8 years as a Taekwondo athlete I don’t especially enjoy it any more. 

Tying a student’s glove for kickboxing training

 

WHITE DRAGON: Do you have any final shout outs, statements, or feelings to express? If so feel free to mention them!
 
MASTER LEE: Thank you for such an opportunity to give me the chance to have such an interview. I’m really grateful for your interest in me.  

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Watch Out Now! Taekwondo Is Serious Business And An effective Martial Art For Self Defense

        Taekwondo is a very serious fighting system and an effective martial art. The Korean Tigers are serious fighters who can beat ANYONE up.

I must remember to put eye liner on before I enter the Dojang. If it helps the Korean Tigers fight better, it could help me fight better. One time I was going to fight this guy who was bullying me, but I showed him my awesome dance moves. Then he tried to show off his own dance moves but they were not as good as mine so I basically beat him up and he never bothered me again. Also, Taekwondo is about impressing the chicks and showing off. It is one of the tenets of Taekwondo. To do effective street fighting with Taekwondo you must make sure to wear skinny jeans. Koreans take dojang dance offs very seriously…

Look at these very masculine males who look so tough and powerful and strong doing a serious Taekwondo fighting form (poomsae):

Anyone of these moves could kill the average man. This is why they are all hardcore black belts!

A Good Model For Martial Arts Demonstrations

        A martial arts demonstration can be a very informative event for the public, or it can be something that people find entertaining, but also, and I warn you, something people will find silly or cheesy and make fun of you for it by heckling you (but then it can also be taken as a silly thing while uninformed people cheer like mad for it, but the true martial arts world will still mock you for it). Unfortunately, Taekwondo always seems to have the latter effect.

        In a demo a school owner or instructor should want to communicate a few things such as: (1) what is their martial art style and where it comes from and its culture, (2) why it is an effective fighting and self defense system, and (3) the specialized movements and techniques. These are the most important things above anything else an instructor wants to communicate in order to leave the audience slightly more informed than they were yesterday about their martial art.

        Of course a demo should be entertaining, but it needs to be educational and deep. An instructor can do simple demos that explain a lot in a short amount of time easily.

Here is an example of a simple demo using MMA:

This demo was done around 2008 and is simple, straight to the point, informative about the martial arts and their local gym, and it was also entertaining. I could criticize the instructors boxing skills, but that is besides the point. Overall he did a very good job and it looked fun. The audience gave a positive reaction. People who would take an interest in martial arts want to see effective combat on display and not a display of nonsense. The demo showed various techniques and why they would work and why their style is fun to train in.

A martial arts demo can also be more elaborate and large, especially if chosen to perform for a large event such as a tournament or any festival. In this case, sometimes music is appropriate or special lighting, but the simple basics and strong techniques and power displays should still be evident. It is not a TV show or party, it is martial arts.

Here is an example of an elaborate demo using Kyokushin Karate:

This demo was large and elaborate yet it showed the simple basics of their style and its combat effectiveness. It was very informative and the bricks and boards they broke were actually the proper sizes. No balsa wood! No ridiculous over the top screaming and silly theatrics. It had a strong and serious attitude showing warrior mindset. The Japanese master is promoting his country’s martial arts and culture in a very honorable and respectful way.

Another example using Seidokaikan Karate:

This is an epic demonstration of martial arts. This Karate master shows off his martial art doing the whole 9 yards. Kata, breaking, pad work, self defense, sparring. I love it. The music is simply background music and not action music or dance music to move to in sync. He does it representing his martial art as sophisticated with a true Budo attitude. And he represents Japanese culture well with honor and not silliness. He shows how hardcore and serious his combat art is. This master shows techniques and why they work, even breaking them down to inform the public. This is something Taekwondo should get a clue about and how to run a proper and serious demo of martial arts display.

Anyone interested in learning how to fight and taking up self defense instruction is going to take such demos seriously and be impressed. Anyone not interested in combative training will instead be impressed with a hip hop dance routine or gymnastics flips. That is basically what Taekwondo demos keep looking like. Taekwondo culture has absolutely no concern to be taken as a serious martial art when it keeps producing idiotic demos that do not teach children or adults to take martial arts as a serious thing, but just a fun and silly thing to do sometimes, like this:

Apparently, in the comments section of that video people are more concerned about the “awesome music” and the names of the songs than anything related to Taekwondo. What a joke. Is this the culture Korea really wants to portray to the world? Thank you kpop for your utter stupidity upon Korean culture! There seems to be no hope when even the Kukkiwon allows this trash and even promotes it. In the USA I expect martial arts masters to keep MTV out of their martial arts! But in Korea it seems the kpop (or MTV Korea) culture goes hand in hand with Taekwondo. It is beyond logic why this is so…it seems at one point some sabunim decided “Gangnam Style” is cool and it should be a black belt requirement to learn this dance if one wants to be on their demo team. Then all Korea Taekwondo went with it.

Who can save Taekwondo?

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White Dragon is a 3rd dan Taekwondo Black Belt with over 19 years experience in the Martial Arts and head instructor of the White Dragon Dojang Martial Arts Training Program. 

The Korean Tigers Are Determined To Destroy Taekwondo

*Authored by White Dragon

If you have been involved in Taekwondo for awhile you have probably heard the name Korean Tigers. The Korean Tigers are a demonstration team that travels all around the world in many groups to promote Taekwondo, but only their version of it. They are all Korean nationals who hold high black belts ranks.

When I first heard the name Korean Tigers I thought they were a Taekwondo fight team from Korea. Back in the day I immediately assumed they were total badass fighters much like the Korean fight team in the movie “Best of the Best.” I assumed they were notorious and deadly and would win every tournament they entered. Over the years I realized they are nothing but a bunch of effeminate looking Korean guys and some cute Korean girls who do performance art. They are more dancer than martial artist. They do more gymnastics and dance movements than actual Taekwondo. Oh, but they are very good at basic techniques and have very solid and crisp movements; but unfortunately for the rest of the Taekwondo world the entire point of their existence is to look pretty, impress people with acrobatics, make up ridiculous fantasy type of fight scenes with music backing them up and break very thin boards made out of balsa wood. They even dress like hip hop b-boyz and b-gurlz and do dance numbers. Sometimes they have the girls do sensual dance movements while wearing their dobok and black belt. Remember the 6 tenets of Taekwondo are 1. Courtesy 2. Integrity 3. Perseverance 4. Self Control 5. Indomitable Spirit and 6. Sexuality! Wait doesn’t 6 cancel out 4? Does any of this make sense to do for Taekwondo?

For the rest of the Taekwondo community that promotes Taekwondo as a fighting art they are a thorn in our side. Often times I feel other nationalities who know about combat (with the world-wide popularity of MMA and the understanding of the need for practical self defense), who train in Taekwondo, need to take Taekwondo away from the Koreans until they know how to treat it properly. Because all the Koreans are doing is ruining their nation’s Martial Art by making it nothing but a silly, sissy, and extremely corny performance art. This is much how the “shaolin monks” from China promote their version of performance Kung Fu.

The Korean Tiger’s are only one problem as there are other demo teams out there, even the Kukkiwon Demo Team, who promote the stupidest and most pointless shows for Taekwondo. Yet, the Korean Tiger’s are probably the most noticeable and problematic group and they have been for decades. They make Taekwondo look like a joke and it seems they are determined to destroy Taekwondo and completely reform it without anything to do with effective self-defense and fighting techniques; and they don’t care.

Here is a video showing the ridiculous way the Korean Tigers view Taekwondo and also promote it. Taekwondo is not a fighting system to them, but a performance art with theater, dance, and music. They are master black belts in song and dance, and do gymnastic moves with a few Taekwondo techniques thrown in. Their performers are known as “K-Tiger’s actors.” That tells you something. Watch the following video:

Wow! That was soooo emotional! So powerful! So riveting!…After viewing this video it reminded me how when I first joined Taekwondo I really wanted to fly! I wanted to dance while a curvy Korean girl in a pretty dress and Korean accent sang a song, and we could all dance and hold hands to it and do back flips. That is the true meaning of a black belt!

Yes that was all sarcasm…Actually when I joined Taekwondo I joined it in the hopes of learning to fight in order to protect myself from neighborhood bullies. I heard it was an extremely effective fighting art. But now days all we get is this nonsense.

The transcript of the video reads as:

“We have decided to participate in this monumental task in transforming traditional Taekwondo. The task is to convert Taekwondo’s fundamental and technical form into innovative art. We attempt to raise the awareness of Taekwondo, not just as martial arts, but as art.”

“I was impressed with show Taekwon, in that Taekwondo is not just martial arts, but can be transformed into a work of art. My dream is to let the World know Taekwondo as a performing art.”

“Show Taekwon, of K-TIGERS is not only Taekwondo as martial arts, but as performing arts that express artistic works. In expressing Taekwondo as art, our intent is to make it and raise the awareness of the popular Korean culture.”

“We are trying to stop the stereotype of Taekwondo. We created a new performance of Taekwondo with comical actions and precision movements from the traditional martial arts.”

Yes, Taekwondo needs more comedy! And that darn stereotype that Taekwondo is a martial art and a deadly killing system and usable in self defense is just too popular! We must stop it! We must show the world that Taekwondo was meant to express artistic works and is about showing off doing flips, and spinning flying kicks that have absolutely ZERO combat application and in no way are effective to use, as none of the kicks would even hurt by the time they hit you because the moment is so weak at those crazy angles. That darn stereotype that Taekwondo is good for fighting must go! We need to work hard to stop it and be more emotional and expressive!

Could you imagine oif Judo did this, or Muay Thai? Would you ever see boxers doing a performance type of boxing? What about art-Karate to express emotions? Yes, the XMA exists but that is a whole different monster that needs to be slain, but this phenomena seems to mainly happen with Taekwondo and something to do with South Korea’s bizarre pop culture. Taekwondo is the main offender of this stupid behavior and philosophy more so than any other Martial Art today.

Actually, everything they said in the video about stopping the “stereotype” of Taekwondo (yes as if it was a stereotype and not a fact that Taekwondo is a combat system) actually promotes the negative stereotype that Taekwondo is for chicks only (yes both effeminate Korean dudes with dumb hair cuts and hot Korean girls) and a total joke. They claim to fight a stereotype (which actually would be positive and promote the art well as something that is worth a lot) while promoting a multi-decade-long stereo type that Taekwondo is simply a joke. They also seem to have a Korean ethnocentric agenda to promote “Korean popular culture.” Yes, because kpop is just so important for the world and we do not have enough Gangnam style! We need more! More Gangam style! More emotions! More expression! More sexy dancing black belt chicks!

Yes, the Korean Tiger’s are determined to destroy Taekwondo and make it an absolute joke with no martial application. It is just a show art for them and they want the future of Taekwondo to be this way. Someone needs to take Taekwondo away from South Korea for awhile until they behave and stop the madness!!!!!

I rish dat I culd fry, touch da sky.”

 

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White Dragon is a 3rd dan Taekwondo Black Belt with over 19 years experience in the Martial Arts and head instructor of the White Dragon Dojang Martial Arts Training Program.