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A Slam Backfired On This Guy And Cracked 3 Ribs And Bruised His Lung

*This post has been updated as of August 11th 2015 to currently reflect the author’s view. He originally supported Street Beefs, but after further observation decided to change his opinion. 

        A Youtube channel called Street Beefs recently put up a video of a fight between 2 guys who had a dispute to settle. One guy went for a hard slam and instead slammed himself into the ground and broke 3 of his ribs, and bruised his lung. The White Dragon Dojang Taekwondo & Martial Arts Blog has reported on Street Beefs before on an earlier article. To understand this group of people who fight in what is called “Satan’s Backyard,” located somewhere in Virginia, you must know about the owner of the backyard and Youtube channel. Street Beefs is run by an ex-con named Chris Stclair who goes by the moniker Scarface (or Face) who hates cops and Republicans, rich people whom he labels the 5% (which is different than the Occupy Movement’s claim of 1% rich people, and he claims rich people all murder and steel money from everyone), the Confederate battle flag, Fox News, is severely biased against White people who are conservative, loves the Black Panther Party, Loves Obama, believes the USA should be flooded with illegal aliens and says anyone who disagrees has “stupid logic,” is obsessed with racism being everywhere in the USA and has an overall extreme passionate hatred for the police and literally believes all cops want to kill black people.

On his Facebook page, he will tolerate you so long as you do not disagree with his opinion. If you view his page he is constantly obsessed with those who “are fake ass bitches” and is busy explaining why he is humble and legit and has no need for anyone who disagrees with his posts. Basically, he is a conceited know-it-all dictator on his page and Facebook group who is extremely thin skinned and cannot handle 1 ounce of criticism both on social/political issues and martial arts technique. He may add you as a friend and even allow you on the Street Beefs Facebook group, but once you dissent on one of his ignorant comments about cops, his obsession with white racists or any of the absolutely baseless comments he makes he will disown you. He will proceed to ignore you like a passive aggressive girl. His personal Facebook constantly shows anti-cop meme’s and other ridiculousness. He is literally one of the most thin skinned people I have ever met and is extremely close mined, intolerant, and bigoted.

For example here is a post on August 5th:

“I gotta be honest….
If it werent for how good it works for promoting our fights, i would GLEEFULLY delete my facebook account and NEVER look back..
I said it before…my bro craven deleted his fb years ago, and he warned me id hate it…well, i DO.
The fake, funny, strange sh!t i see on here id NEVER deal with in the real world.
When i walk down the street in the real world i dont hear HALF of the bullsh!t opinions, attitudes, and ideas i hear broadcasted on here.
Then you got people who get butthurt for strange reasons (sometimes for NO reason) and suddenly dissapear from your account.
People say sh!t, and take stances theyd NEVER take face to face.

Unfortunatley our fights have grown in a HUGE way scince i started my facebook so if i want STREETBEEFS to be successful, i GOTTA keep this facebook account going..but i just wanted to make it clear how much i fcking HATE facebook sometimes.”

Man it must be so hard to be a gangsta! Having to deal with Facebook and all the opinions of other people. Being an ex convict who was convicted of some pretty bad crimes gives him street cred yo! What is funny is I believe even he wouldn’t talk this way in real life, especially if it had to be with a professional situation like maybe during a job and using tact when dealing with the general public. And he says that people get “butthurt” for strange reasons. Maybe the reasons are not so strange. Maybe it is because he is an asshole and has extremely ignorant and outright wrong views on cops, America, and things of that nature that piss people off. The only person that seems butthurt is Mr. Face. The rest of his (few) minions left are equally as ignorant and suck ups.

The Street Beefs Facebook page is by invite only and a person can get kicked out easily by disagreeing with his far left extremist views. Apparently, thoughtful debate and intellectual discourse used with common sense, facts, and not on pure emotion is something he is not capable of and will just either disown you or want to physically fight you. He comes from a very far left “street tough” background, so if you are into that ok, but if you are somewhat conservative or think for yourself do not even bother commenting.

He claims that their fights are all about “beefs” between people, for various people in their neighborhood who have scores to settle, but in reality most of their fights are just between guys who want to fight or have some competitive match (who both are usually untrained). Once in awhile there is an actual argument that leads to wanting to fight each other who show up in the backyard to fight. It is something to wonder if any of these actual beefs are that serious and just an excuse to get 2 guys on video fighting, and a little attention to the fighters in the video. VICE is now reporting on them and about to put out a documentary. So, apparently it worked. We will see what kind of angle VICE will take on it when the documentary is released. It should be hilarious, especially because the hipsters at VICE news constantly create false impressions of things and make them a bigger deal than they really are.

Another thing about this channel is their training videos do not emphasize proper techniques and encourage people not to fight with correct technique or even use the speed bag properly. It is very odd. Even so, the concept itself isn’t bad and it provides some hilarious entertainment, and some fun fights here and there. Just do not expect to be friendly with this dude if you suggest even the slightest that 1. The guys fighting should train at a martial arts gym or boxing gym and learn how to actually fight properly, and 2. that you disagree to the smallest faction with his cop hating liberal ideology that gives excuses for criminal thugs. You will get banned instantly, so it is best to watch in silence.

If you criticize the lack of safety, lack of skill or training, bad technique he himself espouses, bad reffing etc., he will simply just insult you or block you. After this video, though, there have been some safety concerns and at least they changed things to prevent something this bad happening again. So I give them credit. I do not think the “Street Beefs’ idea is necessarily bad. I supported it pretty well in the beginning when if irst encountered this channel, but I have my doubts any truly serious “beefs” have actually been in this backyard. And most of the fighters suck and have no real technique, and the few of their “great fighters” are basically white belt level. But they have heart and enthusiasm that is pretty good. Scarface himself has fought a few times and is looking for challengers, but for some reason they always either cancel and back out, or he just isn’t looking for serious competitors harfd enough. The way he fights it is obvious that if any trained fighter fought him he would get knocked out or submitted really easily. Hopefully someone good fights him because his opponents have all sucked and most of the MMA community online knows it. That is why he gets s much criticism, and boy he sure cannot handle that!

Now on to the fight. In this video, the fight was between guy’s who go by the aliases Phoenix an Jordanian Nightmare.

This is the Jordanian Nightmare:

This is Pheonix, he has intense “beef” against the Jordanian Nightmare. This was Pheonix before he slammed himself into oblivion:

        In the actual fight video shown below, Phoenix seems to be outclassing the Jordanian Nightmare with decent boxing maneuvers. Then Jordanian Nightmare does a spin kick to the Phoenix’s knee which sets him off balance briefly but he recovers really fast and it did not phase him. Even so the low spin kick attempt was pretty cool an could have been effective if he hit the right target on the leg. Phoenix then continues to dominate against his opponent and takes his back and goes for a suplex! Unfortunately, he seemed to forget that in a suplex you grab the body lower, arch/bridge your back more, and make sure the other guys head or upper-back in the shoulder area hits the ground first. Instead he pulls his opponent directly on top of him as he falls back slamming his own back on the dirt and grass as well as allowing his opponents full body weight to crash down on top of him. Fight over. Cracked ribs, bruised lung, and agony ensue. He was totally airborne when he slammed too! He was taken to an ER shortly after this and he seems to be doing better and will recover. But dang!!

        This shows that fighting outside in another environment other than a gym or competition cage or ring can yield different results. Most likely if this was done in an MMA fight on a matted cage surface he would not have had this bad of an injury. The ground is deadly and this is why martial arts such as Judo that emphasize throwing and slams are seriously deadly. Imagine a fight on cement where someone was thrown hard on it. Instant death possibly. This is why Judo has the rule of ippon which means “one full point” in Japanese. This is basically “one finishing slam or technique” which would end the fight. Ippon basically means “fight ender” and is an expression used in Japanese martial arts sports such as Karate and Judo to declare a point that usually counts as an instant win. This has the philosophy as a technique being deadly and ending a fight. In Judo the throws and slams that land an opponent on their back are victories. But not very often to people in such sports ippon themselves like Phoenix did. This is why backyard fighting or street fighting is pretty dangerous and should not just happen with unprofessionals watching in a backyard unless there have been serious safety measures put in place.

        In a real fight a person needs to try not to harm them self by doing crazy wrestling moves. Make sure you can pull them off before attempting. Wrestlers often miscalculate the necessity to wear pants over shorts on rough ground, and sometimes don’t have the sense that the outside ground is not a high school wrestling mat. Do not ippon yourself! So what did it prove for this dude to get that injured in a local backyard? Was it worth it? Was their “serious beef” so serious it HAD to end this way? I doubt it.

        Street Beefs has recently been reported on and filmed by the VICE News channel and will put out a mini documentary on their activities for their Fight Land special interest channel that covers MMA an other martial arts stories. So be sure to pay attention for that and check it out. Check out the Street Beefs YouTube page for some hilarious entertainment of guys flailing arms and limbs fighting in a backyard other silly antics, such as Face’s explanations for why fights are cancelled, all his haters who thin he should learn from a gym and fight real opponents and things of that nature. Enjoy!

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Street Beefs, Nothin’ Like A Redneck Fight Party

*This post has been updated as of August 11th 2015 to currently reflect the author’s view

        Here is a video of 4 guys fighting in a backyard in Virginia. This is a 2 on 2 fight. Apparently, they had beef with each other: 2 brothers against 2 cousins. I thought this fight was hilarious and pretty entertaining. This is some wild stuff. There is nothing like a redneck party!

This YouTube channel is called “Street Beefs,” and is dedicated to local people who have disputes they want to settle with a little good ol’ fashioned violence. I followed this channel for awhile including their facebook page. But one wonders if these “beefs” are real, and if they are real how “serious” they are. The owner of this channel, who goes by the nickname Scareface (or just Face) claims these fights are disputes that have gotten past the point of reconciliation and can only be settled through a down and out fight. According to the owner of this YouTube channel, a former youth-competitive-boxer who claims that as a teenager and young-in he fought in over 40 boxing matches. His backyard is used to allow people to fight out their differences and settle disputes to keep people from actual street fights. It is a way for angry people who are upset at one another to let off their steam. “Face” claims that his backyard saves people from actually killing each other on the streets and that much of these disputes could lead to actual gunfights. He says this all the time, but one will wonder if this is actually true or he is embellishing things. In the past he titled his videos with fake titles mentioning broken arms or legs on the youtube video which he admitted that he did just to get people to click on it. So such embellishments or lies about the fights themselves show that he is not that honest about what is going on in his backyard. Possibly some of the fights are tiny little argument, but it seems they serve more of a way for his channel to get popular, for him to get popular, to make adsense money, and give the fighters a little attention on the internet. There is no real evidence to prove these fights are 100% deadly serious to where each fighter may actually want to murder the other. And if they did it would seem that a backyard fight wouldn’t squash th dispute either and after the fight the loser would still get a gun and shoot the other person.

Another thing about the Street Beefs channel owner is that he is an ex-con, a cop hater (serious, serious, serious cop hater), a far left extremist who despises the Confederate flag and hates republicans. I guess being an ex-con makes him a little biased and someone who will ignore criminal, thug behavior and claim cops are all out to kill black people. Other than that the dude seems nice, but noooo don’t you EVER disagree with his ridiculous criminal ideology about cops and white people. You will get shunned or he will want to fight you in his backyard. There is no talking sense or intellectual discourse, this guy is from DA STREETZ YALL and doin’ it to save the kids from murdering each other. I guess…the concept is nice and interesting and I could agree with it, but I doubt it is as serious as he makes it.

The fights are controlled with a referee and certain rules in place. They seem to mostly use MMA rules, except in the case of the above video with multiple guys fighting. There are people there to make sure no one gets seriously hurt, yet I am sure it is still pretty darn dangerous. Let’s hope they have properly trained medical people on hand in case something serious happens. I doubt they do though, this is some redneck, ghetto stuff. At least they have gloves and mouth pieces, yet it seems in some videos some fighters throw out their mouth guard and keep fighting. So apparently it is an option.

I kind of like the idea of people fighting it out to settle a dispute. I think it is a lot more healthy than shooting each other or stabbing someone on the street, or fighting it out with no ref to break it up. It is a fact of life people get angry and pissed off sometimes and I find combat is a good way to relieve such rage and let it out. Hopefully the fighters respect one another after the fights and their so called “beef” is solved. It is also noticeable in various videos that these fights are bringing together many ethnic groups, cultural backgrounds and ideologies into one backyard. This is a positive thing. Yet, not so positive in the fact the guy will get butthurt if you tell them to get martial arts training to b safer, or learn MMA, and also if you actually respect cops and think they are mostly good. That is the cardinal sin right there. Also, criminal thugs are always okay unless of course one happens to be a nazi. That is the most intolerable evil, that someone is a skinhead who commits crimes VS someone who is not a skinhead or is black and commits crimes. So somehow the racists crimes are worse than the other guys crimes etc. There was a time he posted a video on his own Facebook page showing the beginning of a sexual assault in a prison where a black prisoner attacks a white prisoner with a shaved head who then orders him to take off his clothes so he can rape him. He was very positive about the thug who happened to be black who was attacking the white guy in the prison. This shows you his way of thinking. If you can tolerate that or hate cops sure join his group, but for me I cannot be associated with criminal culture and cop haters who seem to be very biased against white people who happened to be in authority, such as police, as well as gives terrible training advice such as not being able to use a speed bag properly (you would think after boxing as a youth he wuld have known his way of punching a speed bag makes absolutely no sense and is just plain wrong. It is calld a speed bag for a reason, not a slow bag…) and he hates people who tell them to train in MMA. I can understand the latter, as MMA onlyists are incredibly pretentious and people have the right to fight in their backyard and have some fun, but it is the anti-proper training and cop hating attitude that turns me off.

Watching the videos it is obvious hardly any of the people fighting are skilled in any martial art yet somehow these videos are still highly entertaining. The fights seem to last for 1 minute rounds, or possible 1 and a half minute rounds. There is always action most of the time as untrained people tend to spazz out. A few of the fighters may have a limited amount of martial arts or boxing training but not a lot. To see some people with limited martial arts skill watch the following 1 on 1 fight:

I thought I would discuss the idea of backyard fights and the idea of fighting to solve arguments for society. Do you believe that such “non-lethal” duels are healthy for society? Of course no one in these videos are going to kill one another like in the old days of sword or gun duels from the Victorian era and before that (at least I do not believe any of these “beefs” are as serious as “Face” makes them out to be as I believe he is embellishing this to get attention. Nonetheless, it seems like a positive thing to be able to challenge someone to a fist fight duel in a backyard. If it keeps poeple from shooting each other or jumping one another outside with absolutely no rules and chances of serious injury it seems like it is a positive thing. I would suggest a rule change of mandatory safety gear such as headgear (at least sometimes for people who fight a lot), groin cups, and mouth pieces. I would also suggest the fighters get training before they fight, and warm up before the fight to avoid more injuries. Either way the channel offers a lot of hilarious and entertaining fights.

What is your all opinions about such fights? Is it right or wrong? Does fighting keep society healthy? Discuss in the comments below!